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| [[Portal:New_Genesis/Mining_Rig_Defense_Retem|Mining Rig Defense Retem]] || [[Portal:New_Genesis/Practice_Drill_Mining_Rig_Defense_Retem|Practice Drill: Mining Rig Defense Retem]]
 
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!colspan="2"|Practice Drill: Mining Rig Defense: Retem
 
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!colspan="2"|[[File:NGSMiningRigDefenseRetemUQ.jpg|400px]]
 
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! Quest Type
 
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| Trigger Quests
 
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!colspan="2"|Battle Power Requirements
 
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! Rank 1
 
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| 2049
 
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!colspan="2"|Average Enemy Level
 
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! Rank 1
 
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| Lv. 45
 
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!colspan="2"|Quest Details
 
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! Location
 
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| South Retem
 
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! Single/Multi-Party
 
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| {{icons|NGS Multi8}} Multi-Party Quests
 
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! Party Invitation
 
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| Allowed
 
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! Time Limit
 
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| 00:30:00
 
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! Damage Limit
 
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| None
 
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!colspan="2"|First Clear Rewards
 
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! {{icons|NMeseta}} Meseta
 
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| 5,000
 
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! EXP
 
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| 0
 
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!colspan="2"|Rank Rewards
 
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! S Rank
 
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| {{icons|NMeseta}} 10,000
 
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! A Rank
 
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| {{icons|NMeseta}} 7,500
 
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! B Rank
 
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| {{icons|NMeseta}} 5,000
 
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! C Rank
 
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| {{icons|NMeseta}} 2,500
 
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! Rank 1
 
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| {{icons|NMeseta}} 10,000
 
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==Overview==
 
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Practice Drill: Mining Rig Defense Retem is a Trigger Quest version of the Urgent Quest [[Portal:New_Genesis/Mining_Rig_Defense_Retem|Mining Rig Defense Retem]]. Accessing this quest requires the use of 5 [[Portal:New_Genesis/Materials#Quest_Triggers|Q-Trigger/Mining Rig Defense Retem]].
 
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==Quest Objective==
 
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Defeat the target enemy
 
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==Quest Description==
 
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This practice drill is a simulation from the archive to help you prepare for the coming battle. The current settings will allow you to reenact defense of the mining rigs in Aldimond Desert. Make use of all your skills to defend the mining rigs from the enemies.
 
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==Overview==
 
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Mining Rig Defense: Retem is an Urgent Quest set to be released on May 25th, 2022, in which you defend a resource mining rig from enemy attack.
 
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The enemy attacks come in successive Waves. Your goal is to work with other players to successfully defend the rig until the end of the final Wave. The structural damage will affect the rank you receive when completing the quest, however, it will not affect the reward items you receive.
 
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===Mining Rig Features===
 
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Accessing the Mining Rig will allow you to spend varying amounts of Earned Points for Support Modules such as Recover Structural Integrity and Barrier Shield. Mobile Cannons are powerful special equipment that you can call in via Delivery Devices.
 
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!Support Module
 
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!Collectasigne Needed
 
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|Barrier Shield
 
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|500 pt
 
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|Special Equipment
 
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|1,000 pt
 
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|Recover Structural Integrity
 
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|2,000 pt
 
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|Barrier Shield
 
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|3,500 pt
 
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|Recover Structural Integrity
 
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|5,000 pt
 
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|Barrier Shield
 
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|8,000 pt
 
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|Recover Structural Integrity
 
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|9,500 pt
 
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|Special Equipment
 
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|12,000 pt
 
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|Recover Structural Integrity
 
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|14,500 pt
 
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===Ranking Details===
 
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!Rank
 
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!Remaining Durability
 
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|S Rank
 
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|80% - 100%
 
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|A Rank
 
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|40% - 79%
 
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|B Rank
 
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|1% - 39%
 
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|C Rank
 
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|0% (All Rigs Destroyed)
 
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===Minimap Details===
 
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!Icon
 
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!Enemy
 
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!Notes
 
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|{{icons|NGS Backhack}}
 
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|Backhack
 
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|Appears as a red outline around bases.
 
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|{{icons|NGS Meldrum}}
 
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|Meldrum
 
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|Can spawn in groups of up to 3.
 
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|{{icons|NGS Barrigale}}
 
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|Barrigale
 
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|Appears in groups of 3, forming a wall.
 
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|{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}}
 
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|Small Enemy
 
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|Represents small enemies.
 
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|Medium Enemy
 
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|Represents medium boss enemies (Bujin, Varas, Eldi Scythe, etc.).
 
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|{{icons|NGS Large Enemy}}
 
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|Large Enemy
 
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|Represents large boss enemies (Destragras [Second Form], Daityl Sword, Nex Aelio).
 
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===Wave Details===
 
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The following information is based on preliminary observation, and as a result may be '''incorrect''' or may not '''accurately reflect''' the values seen in-game. Time values may also not fully represent values seen in-game due to server latency. The time values (displayed in x:xx format) represent the time that remains in the wave (visible on the left menu in-game).
 
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! colspan="6" | Mining Rig Defense: Aelio Wave Details
 
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! style="width:5%;" | Wave
 
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! style="width:15%;" | Enemies
 
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! style="width:15%;" | Special Enemies
 
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! style="width:5%;" | Wave Length
 
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! style="width:35%;" | Wave Notes
 
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! style="width:5%;" | Collectasigne Value
 
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|Wave 1
 
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|{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Boms Gun<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Boms Sword<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Roron<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Tinos
 
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|align=center|1:30
 
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|{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 2 enemy groups of Sand Rorons and Sand Tinos on the map at 1:28, which respawns in small waves afterwards.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 enemy group of Boms Gun and Boms Sword on the left or right at 1:28.<br>
 
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|align=center|10 pt
 
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|{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Boms Gun<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Boms Sword<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Kerogero<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Roufinbear
 
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|{{icons|NGS Backhack}} Backhack x1<br>{{icons|NGS Meldrum}} Meldrum x1
 
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|{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 2 enemy groups of Kerogeros or Roufinbears at the center of the map at 1:28.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 2 enemy groups of Kerogeros or Roufinbears at the top left and right of the map at 1:26.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Meldrum will appear at 1:10.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 enemy groups of Boms Gun and Boms Sword at the center of the map at 0:55.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Backhack will appear at 0:40.<br>
 
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|{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Sword<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Gun<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Brancle<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Crowpa<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Dotts<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Koron<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Roron<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Savinehog
 
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|{{icons|NGS Backhack}} Backhack x1<br>{{icons|NGS Meldrum}} Meldrum x2<br>{{icons|NGS Medium Enemy}} Bubble Snapper, Svadi Scythe, Svaulon, or Granmizer
 
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|{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 2 enemy groups of Sand Korons or Savinehogs at the bottom left or right of the map at 2:58. Along with these enemies will be an Equalizing Variant Brancle on either side. After these enemy groups are defeated, 1 enemy group of Bomks Sword will spawn on the side without the Equalizing Brancle spawn, and 1 enemy group of Bomks Sword and another Equalizing Brancle will spawn on the side where the Equalizing Brancle was defeated.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two Meldrums or Two Backhacks will appear at 2:54.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 2 boss groups at the center of the map at 2:48. The bosses can either be Bubble Snapper, Svadi Scythe, Svaulon, or a Granmizer.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 3 enemy groups of DOLLS and ALTERS on the left sections of the map at 2:44. Among these enemies can be Sand Dotts and Sand Rorons.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Meldrum will appear at 2:28.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Meldrum and One Backhack will appear at 1:28.<br>
 
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|{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Sword<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Gun<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Dotts<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Rorox<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Tinos<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Roufinbear
 
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|{{icons|NGS Backhack}} Backhack x1<br>{{icons|NGS Meldrum}} Meldrum x1<br>{{icons|NGS Medium Enemy}} Fortos Laser or Lizentos
 
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|{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 3 enemy groups of Roufinbears at the center of the map at 2:58. After defeating all Roufinbears, one Elite Variant of Fortos Laser or Lizentos will spawn on the left of the map, along with a group of Sand Roroxes. One enemy group of Bomks Guns, Bomks Sword, and Sand Dotts will spawn shortly after the boss has been spawned.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 2 enemy groups of Sand Tinos at the top left and right of the map at 2:53.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 large enemy group of Roufinbears at the center of the map at 2:48.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Meldrum will appear at 2:18.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Backhack will appear at 1:28.<br>
 
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|Wave 5
 
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|{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Sword<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Gun<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Dotts<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Rorox<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Tinos<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Roufinbear
 
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|{{icons|NGS Backhack}} Backhack x1<br>{{icons|NGS Meldrum}} Meldrum x2<br>{{icons|NGS Medium Enemy}} Destragras x1<br>{{icons|NGS Medium Enemy}} Kelkundo or Sand Nogleth x1
 
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|{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 large enemy group of Elite Variant Sand Tinos near the center of the map at 2:59. After defeating all Elite Sand Tinos, another enemy group of Sand Tinos and Sand Rorons will near the top center of the map, with a chance of the Sand Tinos being Elite Variants. After this second group of enemies of Sand Tinos and Sand Rorons have been defeated, 2 enemy groups of Bomks Gun and Bomks Sword will spawn on the top or bottom of the map, with a chance of the enemies being Elite Variants.
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 boss group of Kelkundo or Sand Nogleth at the center of the map at 2:55.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 enemy group of Bomks Gun or Bomks Sword at the right of the map at 2:52, with a chance of the enemies being Elite Variants.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Backhack will appear at 2:49.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 large enemy group of Roufinbears at the center of the map at 2:48.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Destragras (Second Form) will spawn directly at the center of the map at 2:46.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Meldrum will appear at 2:08.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} One Meldrum will appear at 1:48.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two Backhacks and Two Meldrums will appear at 1:28.<br>
 
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|{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Sword<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Bomks Gun<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Brancle<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Deser Gun<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Deser Gunblade<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Deser Launcher<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Deser Sword<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Kerogero{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Roufinbear<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Dotts<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sand Roron<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Savinehog<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Spardun A Lore<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Spargun A Lore<br>{{icons|NGS Small Enemy}} Sparzile Lore
 
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|{{icons|NGS Backhack}} Backhack x2<br>{{icons|NGS Meldrum}} Meldrum x12<br>{{icons|NGS Medium Enemy}} Destragras x1
 
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|{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Destragras will spawn directly at the center of the map at 3:59.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two Meldrums will appear at 3:54.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Spawns 1 large enemy group of FORMERS Machina near Destragras at 3:50. 1 Equalizing Variant Brancle will also spawn with this enemy group.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two enemy groups of FORMERS Machina will appear on the left side of the map at 3:42. After defeating these enemies, another enemy group of FORMERS Machina and Sand Rorons will appear on the map. After defeating the second enemy group, one enemy group of ALTERS will appear on the map, along with 1 Equalizing Variant Brancle. <br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Once the second Equalizing Variant Brancle has been defeated, two to three enemy groups of Deser Gun, Deser Gunblade, Deser Launcher, and Deser Sword will spawn near the center of the map, along with Sand Dotts and another Equalizing Brancle.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Four Meldrums will appear at 3:42.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two Meldrums will appear at 2:57.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Three Meldrums will appear at 2:23.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two Meldrums will appear at 2:12.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two Backhacks will appear at 1:42.<br>
 
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{{icons|NGS Exclamation}} Two Meldrums will appear at 1:26.<br>
 
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===Delivery Devices===
 
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[[File:DeliveryDevicesUQ.png|500px]]
 
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Delivery Devices are special teleporters found throughout the field during Defense Quests. Depending on how many Collectasigne points you've earned, you can make use of Mobile Cannons.
 
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===DOLLS Weapons===
 
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[[File:DOLLSWeaponsUQ.png|500px]]
 
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During Defense Quests, "DOLLS Weapons" will show up to cause problems.
 
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* Backhack: Adheres to the rig and inflicts direct damage.
 
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* Meldrum: Fires at the rig from a distance.
 
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===Collectasigne===
 
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[[File:CollectasigneUQ.png|500px]]
 
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Photon crystals known as "Collectasigne" will appear on the field as you do battle with enemies. When you collect them, they are stored as "Earned Points" that you can use at the Mining Rig and Delivery Device support modules. Points earned are shared by all players and everyone may make use of them.
 
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===Emergency Alerts===
 
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Emergency Alerts are sudden incidents in which multiple dangerous enemies such as DOLLS Weapons and Enhanced Enemies appear. It's important to check your radar map to assess the enemy's strength, find your allies, and calmly formulate a response.
 
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===Mobile Cannons===
 
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[[File:MobileCannonsUQ.png|500px]]
 
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Mobile Cannons are powerful special equipment that you can call in via Delivery Devices. While equipped, you are unable to use your normal weapons, and your player character's actions are restricted.
 
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The Mobile Cannon can make the following actions:
 
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The Mobile Cannon has a time limit on its use, and when time is up, it is automatically unequipped. Selecting "Unequip" from the Sub-Palette or becoming incapacitated will also cause it to be unequipped.
 
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File:NGSUIEnemyBomsGun.png|link=Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls#Urgent_Quest_Enemies]|[[Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls|Boms Gun]]
 
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File:NGSUIEnemyBomsSword.png|link=Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls#Urgent_Quest_Enemies]|[[Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls|Boms Sword]]
 
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File:NGSUIEnemyBomksGun.png|link=Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls#Urgent_Quest_Enemies]|[[Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls|Bomks Gun]]
 
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File:NGSUIEnemyBomksSword.png|link=Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls#Urgent_Quest_Enemies]|[[Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls|Bomks Sword]]
 
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File:NGSUIEnemyDestragras.png|link=Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls#Urgent_Quest_Bosses]|[[Portal:New_Genesis/Dolls|Destragras]]
 
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==Notable Rewards==
 
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!colspan="4"|{{#simple-tooltip:Notable Items|Certain items may be omitted from this list to reduce redundancy.}}
 
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| align=center style="width:50%;" | {{icons|NGS Sword}} Weapons / {{icons|NGS Unit}} Units
 
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* {{rarityNGS|5}} [[Relik Endoif|Relik Series]]
 
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* {{rarityNGS|5}} [[Kukuhroziat Sword|Kukuhroziat Series]]
 
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* {{rarityNGS|4}} [[Vialto Spear|Vialto Series]]
 
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* {{rarityNGS|3}} [[Theseus Sword|Theseus Series]]
 
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* {{rarityNGS|3}} [[Trois De Daggers|Trois De Series]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Unit}} [[Vijf Armor]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Unit}} [[Theseus Armor]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Ability Capsule}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/List_of_Augments#Soul_Augments|C/Alts Soul I - III]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Ability Capsule}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/List_of_Augments#Soul_Augments|C/Dolz Soul I - III]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Ability Capsule}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/List_of_Augments#Soul_Augments|C/Forms Machini Soul I - III]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Ability Capsule}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/List_of_Augments#Soul_Augments|C/Forms Sand Soul I - III]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Ability Capsule}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/List_of_Augments#Soul_Augments|C/Ragras Soul I - III]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Ability Capsule}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/List_of_Augments#Secreta_Augments|C/Alts Secreta I -III]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Ability Capsule}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/List_of_Augments#Fusia_Augments|C/Megas Fusia]]
 
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| align=center style="width:50%;" | {{icons|NGS Rare Drop}} Other
 
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* {{icons|NGS Tool}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/Materials|Arms Refiner]]
 
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* {{icons|NGS Tool}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/Materials|Strugment A]] x2-6
 
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* {{icons|NGS Tool}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/Materials|Strugment B]] x2-6
 
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* {{icons|NGS Tool}} [[Portal:New_Genesis/Materials|Strugment C]] x2-6
 
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